TDP Episode 57 photoEpisode 57: Perseverance, by host, Laura Milkins. Our guest, Ceci, tells the story of her depression and how leaving her state job and starting her own business, Bees’ Knees Creatives, LLC, has helped with cope better with her depression. Sunday, April 23, 2017.

There’s something to be said about not giving up when you have depression.” -Gloria Keyloun (The Depression Session Listener)

Perseverance Definition:

  1. steadfastness in doing something despite difficulty or delay in achieving success.


“Perseverance is failing 19 times and succeeding the 20th.” – Julie Andrews



TDP Episode 56 photo

Episode 56: Apathy, by host, Laura Milkins. Our guest, de Vie Weinstock, tells the story of her depression and how understanding depression as a feeling rather than a mental illness, has been a helpful perspective for herself and her clients. Also, how focusing on being present, rather than fixating the past or the future, can lead to wellness. Sunday, April 16, 2017.

Definition of apathy:

  • absence or suppression of passion, emotion, or excitement.
  • lack of interest in or concern for things that others find moving or exciting.

Dare to Be Present – A link to de Vie’s website:

“Hate is not the opposite of love, apathy is.” – Rollo May


Out Sick

4282228554_16f1ccfb92Hello Online Listeners,

I’m out with the flu today, so I’ll be rebroadcasting an episode from 8/21/16. It’s unusual for me to be so sick… I haven’t had the stomach flu in probably 30 years! Feeling better today, but I thought it would be unkind to pass it on to an unsuspecting guest.

I hope you are all hearty and hale.